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M1N1GR33NY
03-15-2008, 08:44 PM
Hi
I am going to buy a Hobbyzone super cub because I think I need a bit more practice until I can fly my spit again . I was wondering if the Anti crash technology in the super cub can be put into the spitfire so the spitfire has the anti crash technology preventing the spit from crashing.
Thanks
M1N1GR33NY
Will
MalcolmS
03-17-2008, 03:19 AM
Hi Will
Believe me you do not want ACT in a Spit even if it would work. It won't work because they are completely different receivers so there would be nowhere to plug the ACT sensors in. If you took the rx out of the Cub and put it in the Spit (you would have to use the Cub servis as the Spit servos are different too) then you might be able to install ACT but ACT is not anti crash more of an auto level i.e. the sensors know that the top one should be bright and the bottom one dark. If the bottom sensor is "brighter" then the plane thinks it is vertical or upside down. It therefore cuts the power and lets the plane self right.
However the Spit will not self right. It goes where it is pointed -if pointed down then only adding up elevator yourself will make it rise.
The one feature that ACT has in common with the Spit is the dual rates switch. On the Spit the high and low rate switch increases or decreases the amount of throw of the elevator and aileron. The ACT switch on the Cub does the same thing as well as using the sensors i.e. reducing the amount the plane moves when you move the stick.
The trouble with ACT is often the sensors get dirty/disolged/loose sensitivity so often after several flights you will find the Cub loosing power for no reason - this is the ACT acting at the wrong time. What most people do with the Cub after 10-20 flights is unplug the sensors and just use the ACT switch as a high/low rate switch.
Also remember that even a fully working ACT will not make the trees/fence/telegraph poles dissappear or avoid the ground if the the Cub is too close to any of these things. i.e. you can still crash with ACT - it is not an autopilot just a helpful tool :D
I hope this is usuful - don't worry you will soon master the Cub and then move back to the Spit. Have a look at my posts under the Spit section for flying advice with the Spit
Happy Landings
Malcolm
M1N1GR33NY
03-18-2008, 04:49 PM
Thanks . Hopefully I'll buy my Hz super cub next week soo I'll post an update on this thread on whether the plane crashed or survived. Plus I'll try and get a video of me flying it. Then I and you can see how I'm flying it wrong if I crash:eek:
But that won't happen:D
M1N1GR33NY
03-22-2008, 04:35 PM
Hi again,
I bought the plane today and I was wondering where am I going to store it because it is massive in wingspan!
Is it easy to take the wing off for the SC as if it is easy, storing it will be a lot easier.
Will
Dizzee Rascal
03-22-2008, 07:29 PM
Is it easy to take the wing off for the SC as if it is easy, storing it will be a lot easier.
Removing the wing is very easy indeed. The wing is held on with rubber bands and for added realism (and not much structural advantage) the struts are attached to the fuselage with just 2 screws.
Very easy indeed, only 2 minutes work required
M1N1GR33NY
03-22-2008, 09:00 PM
Glad to here.
M1N1GR33NY
03-26-2008, 04:41 PM
Hi again,
got my cub todady and thrilled to bits. I tried to upload pics but wouldn't work. Hopefully when I do my 1st flight with it I can upload the video!
KeredFire
03-27-2008, 09:21 AM
After my first plane was lost in the twilight zone, I bought a another one and had my first flight yesterday just before the rain came. You might want to try it with the ATC turned off as the plane seemed to respond better. If you crash don't blame me. It was only a suggestion.:D
M1N1GR33NY
03-27-2008, 03:27 PM
I'll see how it goes. Anyway, when i got my SC, it only had a charger for the car in it. When I bought my 1st plane ( which was rubbish!), it had a mains charger in it. I was wondering if the mains charger for my rubbish plane could charge up the super cub battery. The mains charger has writing on it which says this:
AC/DC ADAPTOR
Input : 220V-50Hz
Output : 9.6V - 250mA
Does this mean I can charge my HZ super cub battery in this mains charger?
Please reply back,
Thanks
Will
MalcolmS
03-27-2008, 05:40 PM
Hi Will
What do you mean your first plane? Was this a Super Cub? I do not think it was as they are not sold in the UK with a mains charger as far as I know. Does your charger have the same connector? I would be dubious about it anyway as it's volatge rating is higher than that of the SC battery so it would most likely damage it. You are far better off using the supplied charger in your car as it will only take 20-30mins to charge. If you would prefer to use the mains then the adaptor that Sqaudronleader sell is the way to go as it effectily provides a 12v socket powered from the mains. This also means that if you buy another Parkzone/Hobbyzone plane you can use the chargers supplied with them via this mains adaptor. The other planes have bigger chargers but are still 12volts in while if you want more power and use a lipo battery then again you will still need a 12v socket.
You can sometimes find these mains to 12v adaptors in car shops or camping shops as they are used to power portable fridges etc
(sorry SL :o).
Anyway I wouldn't use the mains charger you have unless it was a hobbyzone/parkzone one
regards
Malcolm
P.S. of course now you have got your Cub the weather in the UK is bl*!*!y awful for the next week or so :mad:
M1N1GR33NY
03-28-2008, 10:23 AM
I won't use that charger then. Anyway the mains charger was for a 2 channel plane but that doesn't matter now. I'll just use the car chager for the Super Cub battery. I'm thinking of flying it at the weekend if the weather is better.
M1N1GR33NY
04-13-2008, 07:54 AM
Hi everyone,
My flight with the super cub went fine! I've already done hammerhead turns, stall turns, low fly-bys and loops. My confidence is building and I will fly my spit again very soon!
But one thing I can't understand about the SC.
I was preparing to do a loop ( so I was going as high as possible ) and I turned ACT off then did a steep dive then pulled the nose up for the loop. but the ACT overided my controls as the engine did cut out and the plane went level again.
How comes ACT was still on although I turned it off?
Will
MalcolmS
04-15-2008, 06:26 PM
Hi Will
Am very pleased for you that all went well with the Cub and that you feel nice and confident. A few more flights and it sounds like you might be ready for the Spit. Don't forget to try in more windy conditions to stretch your abilities or try moving the control rods to the next hole down on the elevator and rudder horns. That will make it more lively!
As for the loop failure I presume this only happened once as you say you did some loops. I would suggest you may have suffered momentarily from the dreaded Parkzone/Hobbyzone connector. These connectors are known for being insecure. A lot of people fit Deans connectors to their batteries/chargers/receivers as these are a better fit. The normal or Tamiya connectors are known to have a problem in that becasue of the way they fit into the connector housing it is a push fit and sometimes the act of pushing them together can loosen them in the housing which therefore makes a poor contact. Maybe as you were throwing your plane around and having a ball :D the connector became slightly loose and the engine stopped momentarily. You possibly may have had no rudder/elevator control either.
This is just a guess - I myself still use the normal connectors and have had only one problem (a loose Spit rx connector) but I have heard many stories from those who have had completed failure due to loose connectors.:eek:
It could of course have just been a power glithch. These planes aren't perfect but are good fun.:cool:
Good luck with more flying
Malcolm
M1N1GR33NY
04-17-2008, 04:21 PM
Thanks for that I'll check the connectors to see if they are loose.
I have already flown in very very windy conditions and all my elevator and rudder rods are on the the last one which makes it move quickly left/right/up and down.
I think the only reason I crashed the spit was because i was a newbie and did mistakes that lead for me to crash.
But because I've become more experienced i think I think i won't crash the spit.
I'm flying it this weekend soo hopefully all will be well!!
Will
zippy5131
05-13-2008, 06:07 PM
Hi every one saw the question about how to store your planes, well what I have done is to screw three large brass cup hooks into the roof joists and then used 2mm brass tube bent the ends up and then soldered some picture hanging wire into the ends. Two for the wings and a loop of wire for the prop as you can see from the picture it works a treat. The brass rod cup hooks and wire I got from B&Q came to about £6. For the States I'm sure Home depot should have the bits. Enjoy Andy
M1N1GR33NY
05-15-2008, 08:09 PM
From the picture it looks like it really does work a treat! Maybe Squadron Leader need to make a new product that store Planes as good as that because I definately need a storing method like that for my cub and spit. At the moment, both planes are just sitting on the top of a wardrobe and look like they might fall off any minute now !
SquadronLeader
06-11-2008, 03:29 PM
Hi Will
What do you mean your first plane? Was this a Super Cub? I do not think it was as they are not sold in the UK with a mains charger as far as I know. Does your charger have the same connector? I would be dubious about it anyway as it's volatge rating is higher than that of the SC battery so it would most likely damage it. You are far better off using the supplied charger in your car as it will only take 20-30mins to charge. If you would prefer to use the mains then the adaptor that Sqaudronleader sell is the way to go as it effectily provides a 12v socket powered from the mains. This also means that if you buy another Parkzone/Hobbyzone plane you can use the chargers supplied with them via this mains adaptor. The other planes have bigger chargers but are still 12volts in while if you want more power and use a lipo battery then again you will still need a 12v socket.
You can sometimes find these mains to 12v adaptors in car shops or camping shops as they are used to power portable fridges etc
(sorry SL :o).
Anyway I wouldn't use the mains charger you have unless it was a hobbyzone/parkzone one
regards
Malcolm
P.S. of course now you have got your Cub the weather in the UK is bl*!*!y awful for the next week or so :mad:
If you need a good quality mains adapter with a 5 Amp rating then look no further. This adapter handles Warbird, Super Cub and T-28 chargers.
http://www.squadronleader.co.uk/product/Mains_Adapter_%28240v_-_12v_DC%29_MNSAD-ACC
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