Parkzones Next Model

[Radweld]

Is going to be a Corsair, it looks like it's 4x channel and has gear too.

[MalcolmS]

And here are some pics:

http://www.wattflyer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=34108

Have a look at the prang too:

http://www.wattflyer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=34106

Enjoy

Malcolm

[GSS]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-fJZcbXWVpQ

Plus a mid air crash of the new Parkzone Corsair;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wLU0ITZyD8

[Anthony]

Fantastic choice of model aeroplane by Parkzone! I was hoping they would parhaps make a 109E or Hurricane next, but the F4 is good... perhaps they will continue the Pacific theme and make a Zero too!

[Radweld]

Many on RCgroups in the US expected a Zero, Corsair is a strange choice for Parkzone as nearly every other model vendor offers a Corsail reproduction. But this one looks good, was thinking of the T28 but would like to see one of these up close.

[SquadronLeader]

Squadron Leader spoke to the UK distributors today and they have confirmed that the Corsair is the latest model. However, according to our Distributors, the Yanks are getting it first as we Brits had the Spitfire before them. Strange, as I recall it, they had the last model (T-28 Trojan) before us also!

The earliest we can expect this model is by the end of July, but a rather generous pinch of salt should be taken with this news.

Squadron Leader can also confirm that as soon as this plane is available, we will be receiving a healthy stock of planes and the all important spares.

Safe Landings,

Squadron Leader

[Anthony]

Excellent... I had a nice flight with my Cub this evening, so I'm hoping that by the time the F4 becomes available, I will be confident enough in the air to buy one and fly it without crashing!

[gdclowes]

Park zone should produce a Biplane preferably a Tiger Moth or if they want to be Americany maybe a Stearman or Boeing Kaydet what do you think,be different wouldn't it
Geoff.

[Anthony]

I'd still like to see a 109e and a Hurricane in the Parkzone lineup. Or a low wing sports plane with wheel spats like an Edge 540 or something similar!

[ralphp]

I think being US friendly, the next after the Corsair would be a Jug! (Thunderbolt P47) Think this would be great if chromed up and checker nose! Not to mention the nose art and invasion strips…..

I’d love to see a Zero as you can really go to town on the scuffs and missing paintwork.
I think Parkzone feel theirs a limited market for Hurricanes’, and 109’s compared to world wide appeal of the Spitfire…..saying that FW190 compared to 109? Or was this the trial airframe for the zero???????

[GSS]

What we really need is a Messerschmitt bf109. Stick a combat module on a Spit and one of these puppies and off you go......

[MalcolmS]

Well Folks

Its up on the Parkzone website:

http://www.parkzone.com/Products/Default.aspx?ProdID=PKZ4600

It looks great with a Spektrum 2.4Ghz radio set and a brushless/Li-Po system

And even better it has a three bladed prop!!!:D

It is released in the US in August.

Will our friends at Squadronleader have them in time for Xmas?

Pretty please?

Malcolm

[Radweld]

That 3 bladed prop will look very nice on my T28 :D

[Dizzee Rascal]

That 3 bladed prop will look very nice on my T28 :D


I agree. I will be doing the same!

[Anthony]

Will you be able to see the difference in the air?

[ralphp]

No....but it will sound differant!

[ralphp]

Yep! the guys say they sound have this around August.....but you never know, if the Yanks get too greedy we might not get any!

[Radweld]

Only problem with the 3blade prop is it produces less thrust (or so i'm told) so maybe a motor upgrade is in order.

[Anthony]

Also with 3 bladed props you need a plane with wheels (which takes away from the look of warbirds without retracts) otherwise they will get snapped on landing.

[ralphp]

Depends on the angles of blade, how long, and all sorts of geeky stuff....did like the (or so I'm told) "tail gunner to pilot....arse coverd...over" good man.

by the way I have the engin right up from WWII for the Spit, and US WWII analysis talks about pitch of blades under restrictions? let us know if you want them.

[Radweld]

Hell yeah.

[ralphp]

Will sort tomorrow, once i get this "work stuff" out the way.
Due to file size will be in personal email like before ok?

It's quite a fun read....find yourself being patreotic and thinking "no i'm sorry you're wrong and it flys better than your letting on!"

[bullittrob]

looks awsome,.shame about the foam lumps all over it..

[JuZ]

Any idea when it's going to be onsale in the UK?

[ralphp]

They all say "before the end of summer"....but every one is hoping for a pre-Christmas release!:confused:

As for the bumps......I'll be looking to sand those out and respray myself.
TRICK.....use a nail buffer (6 grade type) M&S or Boots the second grade down smooths styrene to better than produced from the factury!!! (but don't tell the wife......apparently she's miss three of them?):D:DLOL!!!

[Radweld]

They all say "before the end of summer"....but every one is hoping for a pre-Christmas release!:confused:

As for the bumps......I'll be looking to sand those out and respray myself.
TRICK.....use a nail buffer (6 grade type) M&S or Boots the second grade down smooths styrene to better than produced from the factury!!! (but don't tell the wife......apparently she's miss three of them?):D:DLOL!!!

I am about to paint my Stryker anhd was wondering how to remove the grey/green paint.

Might give this a go.

[ralphp]

*further little trick* before you start hacking at your kite, try if on the styrene packaging it comes in......if it smooths rather than, tearing off little bubbles of foam you've got the right one!

[Joe B]

It would be good is parkzone produced a biplane, but the corsair just looks great. I cant wait until the end of july so it looks like im having a t-28 for christmas.

[ralphp]

I've had a little bird tell me that a bi-plain will arrive very soon if you check on the lead page you'll find under eflight that theres all ready a new bird there "sea fury" and looking good....with retract's!:D

pip pip old chap....

[Anthony]

I read a review of the E-flight Seafury in RCM&E (the september 08 edition) and it does look good, although it's a bit smaller than the parkzone planes. It's certainly worth considering, it would also be nice if Squadron Leader could introduce a ducted fan plane into their line up and a sports plane like an Edge or Extra. :)

[bingethink]

A Hurricane would be my pick but I do understand the market for them would be more limited than the Spitfire. A Bf109 would be great as well. Does anyone else do these in the Parkzone style?

[ralphp]

The squadron leader is looking into it! 109 is comming soon from what I hear, and the Hurricain, well sad to say there are no really good looking rep's of this work horse of WWII!
Damnasion, dame and blast....pip pip old bean!

[Radweld]

Outside of the UK a Hurricane isn't well known and as the largest market is the US of A we have to cater for them. The Spitfire is well known everywhere, the Hurricane, not so.

[Anthony]

A hurricane would be my favourite too... I can just imagine people seeing it flying and saying 'yeah, i've always liked those spitfires'.

[bullittrob]

are they doin a 109? the cambrian fun fighter 2" bigger in span.,than our spits,ive got a foam robbe one,.but its no longer in their catolog,.,but a foam 109 rtf will be the answer to all my prayers....

[ralphp]

I'm seriously thinking of doing a foamy myself.......if I can ever get the "big lady" lanc out of my house!

[bullittrob]

oh yerrr..,,.go for it,.,.,.from what ive seen of the lanc i bet a 109 will be a snip for you phill,.,..,;)

[ralphp]

well I'm sure It won't take so long! LOL.....or take up so much space! my hanger, I mean back room and loo have turned in to a drawing office, board room and production line!LORL!!!!!

[bullittrob]

A hurricane would be my favourite too... I can just imagine people seeing it flying and saying 'yeah, i've always liked those spitfires'.,..,lol.,,.:D

[ralphp]

Lets be honest the gereral public think the Spit won the B of B yet shot down no where near the amount the big "H" did!

and mostly linnin covered! very, VERY, brave young men!:)

We all love the Spit to bits, but the "H" did the business with those brave men!

Hip, Hip and pip pip old bean!:D

[bingethink]

A Hurricane and a 109...woootie, woot. Just need He111, Do17, Ju88, Ju87 and maybe a Defiant and you have the whole BoB airfleet. Oh chuck in the Blenheim too if you like. ;) There's all Bomber Command's stuff too. :eek:

The Hurricane outnumbering the Spitfire accounted for the high kill number. It was often dismissed by the Luftwaffe and known by some 109 pilots as 'The Old Puffer' but it was actually a great dogfighter and could turn inside both a 109 and Spit, and it's thought this complacency toward the Hawker got quite a few Luftwaffe pilots killed. The big problem was the speed disadvantage. Early ones didn't have self sealing tanks which made them catch fire rather to readily although the rest of the aircraft was robust and apparently it was easy to fly. Some RAF pilots preferred them to the Spitfire.

[ralphp]

GEEK!....sorry, had to be done:D

Nurse where are my pills, and how can I drink my co-co with out the sleves?

pip pip old bean!

[bingethink]

Sorry...I'm a bit of a BoB plank. :o

It won't happen again. :p

[Radweld]

Originally the Hurricane was designated to the bombers and the Spitfire tasked with the fighter escort.

[Anthony]

I think I'm right in saying that the Battle of Britain isnt even taught in schools anymore, for fear of turning kids against the axis countries. I'm totally against mindless PC stuff like that... I say let the kids know what our european neighbours were up to 60 or 70 years ago, let them find out what planes like the Spitfire and Hurricane and the brave men and women who flew in them have done for the free world (not that it is really free anymore).

[Anthony]

Originally the Hurricane was designated to the bombers and the Spitfire tasked with the fighter escort.

Yeah i don't think that plan worked out for very long after they started tangling. Parkzone really need to make a Hurricane and Bf109 so that we can get the full RC experience... there should be parkzone rallys where we can go along and have a fly round. :D

[Radweld]

Yeah i don't think that plan worked out for very long after they started tangling. Parkzone really need to make a Hurricane and Bf109 so that we can get the full RC experience... there should be parkzone rallys where we can go along and have a fly round. :D

This should be arranged, maybe SL should organise an open day or some kinda show, BB and PR can display their latest works of aeronautical art and I can crash them :D

[ralphp]

Cheers Rad! He He! LOL......

I'd call myself "abit"....as in a bit of a builder, a bit of a painter, a bit of a flyer....ish!:D

We have all heard of my tree assisted landings....blighters come out of the sun at me......honest!:mad:

[ralphp]

BING! It's ment in the best possible tast mate....no harm or malise intended! where a freindly bunch her!

[bingethink]

Originally the Hurricane was designated to the bombers and the Spitfire tasked with the fighter escort.

Indeed the Hurricane was designated to go after the bombers and the Spits to tackle the escorts, but as you can imagine this was often not possible so Hurricanes more often than not ended up dogfighting with 109s and 110s.

[bullittrob]

i think that the spitfires were used as fighter attack aircraft purley because they were that little bit faster.,,.but the hurricane could turn inside a spit & a 109!!!...more squadrons had the hurricane than the spit during the B.O.B,.,.but the hurricane wasnt desingned purley as a bomber attack aircraft but as a front line fighter,.it just evolved into what we now know as the less glamerous fighter of the two,.but it did do more than the spit,,.& in my eyes just as nice....!

[ralphp]

"where to begin? HMMMM ah yes, wing commanders cap off, GEEK specs on"

GEEK ALERT!GEEK ALERT!GEEK ALERT!GEEK ALERT! :eek:

Hurrican, (designation as per ministry of defence and raf command) "must be LOW WING FIGHTER" not an "escourt plane" she was the RAF's first low wing fighter.

Used in secort dutys due to high numbers and ease of repair, compaired to Spit (During B of B Hurrican 32 squadrons to 19 Spitfire squadrons) Spit metal construction, Hurrican semi wooden frame and doped covered fabric.

pipity pip old beans Geek alert over! It's safe to get back in the sky's!:D

[Radweld]

Random question here regarding the 60's movie the Battle Of Brittain.

Whats wrong with the ME109's in the movie? :D

[ralphp]

the engins used where from spits.....exhausts high up. the 109 had low ports, but there are even more errors.........I'm not going there though it's a great film and should be enjoyed with the passion it's mad

The original designs lost due to fire when factory was distroyed during the war.....hence was not allowed to fly with original engins!

or are you sturing it big man?LOL! good old Rad......ding ding, round #1

LOL!!!!!!!!

[Anthony]

They were Spanish planes pretending to be Germans in the Battle Of Britain film. If I remember correctly the flying sequences were flimed from a B24. :)

[ralphp]

NO! NO!NO! NO!NO! NO!NO! NO!NO! NO! young man your falling into his trap!!!!!!

BANG another bit the dust!

downed by Rad! what a way to go!:D

[Radweld]

Lol, yep your both right. They were Spanish made Hispano HA-1112-M1L Buchons fitted with Rolls Royce Merlin engines.

:D

[Anthony]

They must have had the Merc engine noise dubbed in then... you can clearly hear at the start of the film when they are strafing the french airfield that the engines are german ones. It would have been so off putting if they had sounded like Merlins. :D

[ralphp]

I'm sure I could hear you screeming at your PC!!!LOL!
Almost as bad as your dodgy spit photos....he,he LOL! looks real, I as ask you?:D

You da man Rad, you da man! makes my day!:D

[ralphp]

BANG! BANG! BANG!....HE'S GOING DOWN HE'S GOING DOWN! lol! Don't rise to it Ant!:D

[Radweld]

I keep seeing a Flug Werk Fw 190 A-8 that flies over High Wycombe, It's in late Lufwaffe markings and probably has the Russian made ASh-82FN 14 cylinder radial engine fitted. In a twist of Irony, early varients of this engine were fitted to Russian LA5 and LA7's the original FW190 fought on the eastern front.

:D

[Anthony]

How interesting; I wonder if he knows what he's really flying.


Hey... who's dodgy spitfire photos?? :D

[ralphp]

Photo's....Rad the man passing off a real bird photo as one of his own rc birds!LOL all day long on that one!

[Radweld]

Photo's....Rad the man passing off a real bird photo as one of his own rc birds!LOL all day long on that one!

Your the only one who noticed lol

[Razorman01]

Just ordered mine from my local store in UK, £200, ain't even flown my pz spit yet....he he

[ralphp]

You obviously have money to burn! (unless you've flown other low wings?) We are a freindly bunch hear and would love to see some shots in the air, on the ground and going home in the mandatory plasic bag in bits!LOL!!!!

[SquadronLeader]

Razorman, was the plane in stock or is it a pre-order?

[Razorman01]

Pre order, no stock yet.

This hobby (hate that word) has gripped me fast, been into rc cars for years, the nitro powered variety, mainly traxxas brand, stumbled into planes last month after finding PZ models on the web.

I've allways loved models & the buzz (bad pun) from flying is superb.

No crashes yet after about 3 hours on the cub, spitfire this weekend for my graduation to low wings!

Been a pc flight sim nut for more years than i care to remember, this rc flying malarkey seems to suit me too ;)

Here's some more Corsair action.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tQDEtztOt5w&NR=1

[Anthony]

Perhaps I shouldn't say this on a RC plane site but I love racing cars! As a kid I couldn't own a real car so I had to make do with pretending to be Steve McQueen in LeMans with my Nitro RC car!! :)

There wern't any 1970's style sports car shells in the shops so I had to make my own out of some thin plywood! :D

[Radweld]

I competed in Electric touring cars and F1/Lemans cars for 5 year, 1/10 and 1/12th scale.

[Anthony]

Nice! What kind of speeds could they do? I had a 1/10th scale 4x4 Toyota Supra with an electric 540 motor; it was okay but I had an electric speed control with traction control, which coupled with the four wheel drive made it a bit boring, so I went to rear drive nitro and it was much more fun! :)

[Radweld]

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=PR-CP9pa5dU

Here is an example of the 1/12th scale racing, These are the top drivers I was never this quick lol

The smaller model is a Corally SP12-G3 1/12th scale

The other larger model is a Corally CCT 1/10th scale.

Both of them are RWD, pretty basic suspension and great fun. In fact I still have my models.

[Anthony]

Looks good, I've always wanted to go racing but I've only ever used my car in the street or in open areas of public ground. I used to be pretty good though, I could make the car drift with opposite lock and go sideways for as long as possible! lol

[Rahal]

I'd love a bf-109, preferably a G or K model..

[ralphp]

It's got to come some time! if only for the European market!

[Anthony]

What type would it be though... are all future Parkzone warbirds going to be brushless with wire undercarriage or do you think they'd go back to the Spitfire and FW190 design?

[ralphp]

Now theres the question!
It all depends on who's crystal ball your using?.....if like, scale stuff, you find "re-tooling" happens to keep the price at a higher level (old scale kits become obsolite as better versions come out, and price drops)
I think we can all agree a better panel lined version of Spit works in anyones collection and would hold price????

[Anthony]

The thing is if they get too complicated, it moves out of the parkflier price and ability range and will not be profitable. Nobody would want to spend £200 + on a model when they aren't sure how to fly... at present the £100 for a Spitfire is about right, with slightly more complicated planes such as the Corsair available for more experienced people at a higher cost. I would like to have a Spitfire or P51 with retracts as a one box purchase but I doubt that will happen. If a forthcoming 44" Me109 appears with brushless lipo power it would be too good to make a fight with a stock Spitfire a good contest.

[ralphp]

I'm pretty sure this is the issue they believe they can sort for next year.....

I am hoping myself that they keep to the below £150 complete price, which keeps to the PZ "Best Value" idea

If they go for £200 there out of the first time or week end flyer range and this isn't there market! (unless they add value in the look?)